"Prices are poised for a continual drop for the next 5 years, or until they come back down to historical affordability ranges" - Chicken Little 1.0
"When will the average list prices get in-line with average incomes?For example, you wrote the average price of those duplexes was $381,133. Assuming 20% down, that leaves a loan of $304K. Using 4x gross income as the affordability factor means you need an income of $76K. Does the average person is Sacramento earn $76K? I thought the median income in Sacramento was $42K" - Chicken Little 1.0
Okay, Chicken Little 1.0, let's go over this s-l-o-w-l-y, shall we? Median income has nothing to do with median home prices. Or how do you explain San Diego where the median price of a home is $566,700 and the median income is $55,637?
Ouch. That hurts your argument, doesn't it? Well, maybe we could look elsewhere. How about New York? City Data reports median income in New York as $43,434 and the median price of homes as $449,000. Hmmm... maybe they should hear your theory and lower their house prices.
Okay, so maybe we should consider Los Angeles. Surely, they understand your measure and what you mean. Okay, Los Angeles, then. A median priced home in Los Angeles sells for $513,800. Median income? $42,667.
Hmmm. (Cough, cough) Ahem!
The problem, Chicken Little 1.0 is that you cannot put a nice little bow on everything that happens. There are no neat little mathematical calculations you can apply to everything. I wish life were that simple.
Median house prices are oranges; median incomes are apples. Compare the two and you get an orple. A nut.
Saturday, September 15, 2007
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3 comments:
Since chicken little 1.0 seems to be wrong, what is driving sales and prices down?
How about a historical view of real estate values versus income? Since 2000, this ratio has gone completely crazy. I believe that reality is returning as a whole lot of recent buyers that should not have been in the market, are now being forced out of the market.
Portland RE Guy,
NutHound Quincy is working on getting historical data.
And by the way I don't disagree with the idea that a lot of people that shouldn't have been buying were in the market and are now being forced out.
However, to justify the real estate boom as a bubble and to impose guidelines on the free market seems a little nutty to me.
There are many cities where people just cannot afford to buy and rent for all their lives. To say that housing prices will fall until every person can buy a house is nothing short of preposterous!
Portland RE Guy,
Just so you know -- our main "free" (given that we have to pay for it anyway to do our jobs) source for real estate data is the multiple listing service -- in our case, Metrolist. Metrolist did an upgrade a few years back -- 2003 I think it was -- and at that time whatever historical data they did have, which was already limited, was not carried forward. That's why you may find our analyses lack historical depth.
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